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Postby clee » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:42 pm

Grab it whilst you can ....all parts are getting thin on the ground .I just nabbed a couple of sets of turbo piston rings from UK supplier ...Simon,Meca etc sill have bits but it costs ..

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Good tip on parts

Postby dallarax19 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:34 pm

I can still find parts in the US for the NA engines but the Threebond 1215 is a bit harder to find. Are there any other sealants used for the block/crankcase? Thinking ahead, what is used for the gearbox? Thanks for the help.

Trying to find someone to CO2 blast the block. Vapor blasting is uncommon here. I have bearings and other bits on the way so I want to get pull it all together as soon as possible..
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Re: Good tip on parts

Postby johnb » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:00 pm

dallarax19 wrote:I can still find parts in the US for the NA engines but the Threebond 1215 is a bit harder to find. Are there any other sealants used for the block/crankcase? Thinking ahead, what is used for the gearbox?


I have a copy of the manual for the car and it says use Rhodorsil CAF 33 for the block/lower block joint face. As I had no knowledge of other sealants I tried to find it on the web and came up with a company, Bentley Advanced Materials, and bought a tube from them in March this year. I can't now find it on their website but its name now is Bluesil CAF 33 made by Bluestar Silicones. The one clee mentioned may be more modern than this but, as I said, when I was looking I didn't know of alternatives.
The website for Bentley is:
http://www.benam.co.uk/products/bluestar/

And here's some data on the product:
http://www.bluestarsilicones.com/bs/pro ... noir_black

I had the gearbox rebuilt by a specialist and I don't know what he used. Where I can see it at the joint it looks like silicon and is black. Maybe similar material.
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Re: Good tip on parts

Postby johnb » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:02 pm

dallarax19 wrote:I can still find parts in the US for the NA engines but the Threebond 1215 is a bit harder to find. Are there any other sealants used for the block/crankcase? Thinking ahead, what is used for the gearbox?


I have a copy of the manual for the car and it says use Rhodorsil CAF 33 for the block/lower block joint face. As I had no knowledge of other sealants I tried to find it on the web and came up with a company, Bentley Advanced Materials, and bought a tube from them in March this year. I can't now find it on their website but its name now is Bluesil CAF 33 made by Bluestar Silicones. The one clee mentioned may be more modern than this but, as I said, when I was looking I didn't know of alternatives.
The website for Bentley is:
http://www.benam.co.uk/products/bluestar/

And here's some data on the product:
http://www.bluestarsilicones.com/bs/pro ... noir_black

I had the gearbox rebuilt by a specialist and I don't know what he used. Where I can see it at the joint it looks like silicon and is black. Maybe similar material.
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Postby johnb » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:16 am

Firstly, apologies to Lee for these tangential additions to your thread. Maybe useful to others though.

My Volvo Autobook refers to Curil K2 as a block/lower block sealant. Found this American dealer selling it plus this Elring data about the product.

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Curil-K2-E ... ril-k2.htm

http://www.elring.de/fileadmin/Dateiabl ... glisch.pdf
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Postby MFaulks » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:47 pm

johnb wrote:The rocker cover and especially the timing cover gasket look exactly what I meant by 'egg box' material.
Compare the timing cover gasket with the Payen gasket I bought a couple of days ago.
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Good info, can you post up part numbers, think that will be useful to other folk, eg Cedric has got an engine build going on too, these little nugets all help towards better builds.

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Postby johnb » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:00 am

MFaulks wrote:Good info, can you post up part numbers, think that will be useful to other folk, eg Cedric has got an engine build going on too, these little nugets all help towards better builds.

Thanks,
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First photo is label in timing cover gasket set. Unfortunately the bottom of the label has been cut off. The hand written label was by the Ebay seller. The set included the pulley seal.
The other photo shows the contents of the head set and the label that was on one of the head gaskets.
I've asked the Ebay seller if he has any more of these sets and he has replied saying he has many gasket sets and will get back to me with specific details. If anything is of interest I'll advise.

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Postby clee » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:31 pm

I've just got 8 pairs of rocker cover gasket ,mostly Payen but am struggling to find the timing cover .If he has any I will take them please .
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Postby johnb » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:23 pm

I spoke to him this morning and he is going to check what he has. Maybe not till after the weekend. When I get feedback I'll let you know.
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Postby MFaulks » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:53 pm

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Thanks John that's great. I could do with some as well, note I didn't say all :wink: :lol:
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Postby clee » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:55 pm

:lol: :lol:

Neither did I ..I said any ...ffs ..you need to get your hearing checked :evil: :evil:
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Postby MFaulks » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:13 pm

:lol: :lol:

blindy faulks and I would be well up shite creek :roll: Appointment tomorrow..
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Postby johnb » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:34 pm

Don't get too excited, he might not have any.
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Postby mogster242 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:38 pm

If he has any I would be interested in the timing cover gasket too please, as the one I got from SA looks like a piece of cardboard...
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Postby johnb » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:16 am

Whilst I'm waiting an answer from the Ebay seller I had a look at this supplier. I haven't used them for anything before so don't know what they're like but they're showing the timing cover gasket.

http://www.franzose.de/en/Renault/Alpin ... /ANR70738/
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